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TOUGH CRITICS
GIVE THEIR REVIEWS-
Posted by
Doug Dupont
Strength, Conditioning, Nutrition,
and Lifestyle Coach
December 19, 2006
On the Xyience Strength &
Conditioning Forum - mma.tv
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At long last, here is my review of
the new Combative Conditioning set.
First i'll go over a bit of what is
covered in the set. Then i'll
discuss some criticisms, followed by
strengths. I'll finish with who i
think this set is best for. It
should be obvious, but i'll note it
anyway, that my opinion of various
sections and concepts will be
sprinkled throughout. You may have a
different opinion, so keep that in
mind. I may add some things in later
on after my initial review because i
forgot my notes at home.
Overview:
The Combative Conditioning set comes
with three discs, two of which are
dvd's and one which is a cd for the
computer.
The first disk begins with an
introduction to the coaches, and an
outline of the dvd's. It also
describes some of the coaching
philosophy that the program is based
on. After the introduction, the
coaches continue into a warmup, and
then into the first two "Phases" of
the program.
The first phase is "Balance and
Stability." The program is set up as
a progression, so the coaches advise
not skipping phases. This phase
stresses exercises that require
balance, such as one legged
variations of exercises, and
exercises with a stability ball (a
common theme throughout).
The second phase is "Strength and
Compounding." In this phase there
are compound exercises, blending
elements of traditional strength
exercises with more balance oriented
exercises of the first phase.
The second DVD begins with phases 3
and 4.
In Phase 3 is power endurance. This
phase emphasizes strings of
exercises that challenge common body
parts making it quite challenging.
Phase 4 is "Fight-Specific
Training." This phase offers three
different circuits based on the
creators' philosophy. This portion
will be more demanding of a wider
variety of energy systems than the
other phases.
The second dvd ends with a few
bonuses like how to use what's
available to you to add variety and
fun to your workout, and includes
Oberhue's (i think it was him)
brutal run up a very long hill. I
can only imagine what the many
drivers that go by are thinking. (I
also would advise NOT stopping in
intersections to perform exercises
like Tom does in the dvd,
considering the road was reasonably
busy!) There are some other extras
as well.
Finally is the data cd, which
contains some further extras (some
are the same as the extras at the
end of the second dvd). The data
library offers many additional
exercises not seen in the workouts
(and elsewhere you are provided with
the templates so that you can add
these new exercises in yourself).
The highlight of the Data CD for me
is the printable workouts and
templates. These items tell you
exactly how to use the program as
presented, how to progress over
time, and how to modify the workouts
based on your own abilities.
Criticisms:
Here is a list of things that, as a
coach, i didn't really care for, or
thought could be improved. Each
paragraph below represents a
different point i would like to
express. I will preface this by
saying that the majority of these
criticisms are essentially nit
picks, and not particularly
crippling to the overall design. I
appreciate that the coaches simply
presented their philosophy and
didn't attempt to argue for it,
which would have been a severe
mistake.
There is a needlessly
strict/inefficient structure to
presenting exercises. For example,
there are three "coaching points"
and "bail points" for each exercise,
while some need more or less, and so
it seems somewhat frivolous. The
bail/coaching points are too rigid
in presentation, but this fact is
merely a detail of my opinion. I
find it far more important that they
actually present these points to
begin with; in a sound and otherwise
reasonable manner. They address
tempo too, which is often ignored on
dvd's, but the tempo throughout is
highly unregulated, and i'd like to
see it cleaned up in future projects
from these guys.
There is a confusing grouping of
exercises as well. Some exercises
could easily be grouped differently
than they are, and although i
understand WHY they were grouped as
they were (they still make effective
workouts), i think this could have
been presented differently, but
again, this criticism has no effect
on the quality of the workout.
Personally, i think there is an over
emphasis of unstable surface
training. However, this moves into
the exercise science realm, and is
debatable, so i'll digress on this
issue.
It says in numerous places that the
data library contains 95 exercises,
but i only count 92. Keep in mind
that, even if i am right, 92 is
still a hell of a lot of extra
exercises!
I think that an experienced coach or
athlete might not see a lot of new
things in this set, but i think most
people will see at LEAST a few new
things.
There seems to be a decent amount of
equipment needed, although a clever
athlete could do the workouts with a
relatively small investment in
equipment or at a standard gym. For
example, they have a cool band setup
that i like a lot, but that i
haven't seen anywhere else. The one
flaw in the variety seems to be a
lack in describing how an athlete
could get by with no balls or bands
(the most needed equipment), which
i'd like to see from them.
There is a physical therapist in the
introduction who gives an
unfortunately edited speech. He is
cut off posing a point that isnt
self evident. However, in the bonus
features his entire discussion is
included which explains his position
in greater detail. I would have
liked to see a bit more on the
actual dvd, but i doubt many other
people would notice. And i think
adding him in is a nice touch.
On section ("Design Elements") on
the data cd didn't work for me, but
i only tried in one computer. This
may not be a normal problem.
(note from CC: This problem has
been fixed)
I think the periodization model
presented on the data cd could be
longer, but it is more than
sufficient as is. Essentially, i
wonder what the coaches advise once
the program is complete.
(note from CC: In the
periodization form it states that
once you have progressed through all
four phases the idea is to start
over again at phase one - at a
higher difficulty level. Thus it is
a never ending system that won't
burn someone out by trying to
maintain phase 4 level
indefinitely.)
Strengths:
The following are a few strengths
that i found with this set. They are
presented as a point to a paragraph
like in the last post.
This set is run by three intelligent
and charismatic coaches. It's easy
to tell that they are experienced
and that they care quite a bit about
the quality of their work.
The program is powerfully
modifiable. It takes a lot of work
to make a program on dvd easy for
even beginners to modify, and
they've done a good job of it.
The program is challenging for a
very wide variety of athletes, from
day one of training and up.
Although this set is marketed toward
combat athletes, people without a
sport would find benefit in it as
well.
The design from beginning to end is
a complete one. You are instructed
from the warmup to the cooldown, to
recovery on off days, and a short
periodization plan. Most of what
beginning and intermediate athletes
need and may be missing is
presented.
There is a strong emphasis on form
and progression. The coaches seem
genuinly concered about your safety
and wellbeing.
There are variations of (i think)
every single exercise in the
workouts that are shown to either
increase or decrease the difficulty
to allow for different levels of
athletes.
The structure is easy to follow and
clear. It moves a little fast at the
beginning of the first dvd, but they
emphasize that this portion is
directed towards coaches, and too
fast is waaaay better than too slow.
Finally, the production is good.
Everything is tight from audio to
visual to chapter selection and so
on.
Who it's best for:
In this section i will describe
different groups and if this dvd is
good for them. I'll then conclude
the review.
Novice Athletes: This set is ideal
for novice athletes (which comprises
probably 95% of the target market).
It provides excellent GPP and good
beginning knowledge for safety that
beginners need, and the sort of
variety that they crave, all while
being very simple to follow. It will
give these athletes the base they
need to improve to the next level.
Intermediate Athletes: The workouts
on dvd 2 will be challenging, and
the variety will give you some new
tools to play with.
Advanced Athletes: The final couple
of workouts may provide a challenge,
but are not likely to push you into
the top tier. This is not the fault
of the coaches, as i think it's
impossible to make such a product on
dvd and have it be applicable to
multiple athletes. However, advanced
athletes should seek their own
coaches.
Coaches: New coaches will probably
find good concepts on how to
structure a program that they can
build off of for the future, and
enough variety to keep clients busy
for a while. More advanced coaches,
or those who deal with advanced
athletes aren't likely to learn much
new and their needs are beyond the
scope of this dvd (or any other for
that matter) anyway. An elite coach
should have a focus on sport
science, which this dvd rightly
lacks.
If you have any questions about my
review, or about anything i may have
left out, just post it here and i'll
answer.
Doug Dupont Strength, Conditioning,
Nutrition, and Lifestyle Coach
(Posted originally on the Xyience
Strength & Conditioning Forum -
mma.tv) |
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Posted by CJ (bjjprim8)
Certified personal trainer, a certified coach under
USA Hockey, Muay Thai and BJJ Coach
December 19, 2006
On the Atama BJJ Forum - mma.tv
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Okay guys, I was asked to do a review of this set
by one of the producers and I have to say I'm glad I
did! Before I get into that I'll let everyone know a
little background about me for this type of DVD.
I'm a certified personal trainer, a certified coach
under USA Hockey, I have taught Muay Thai for over
ten years and have taught BJJ at one of the premiere
schools in NYC. I have been exposed to all different
types of training in the last almost 20 years.
I'm not going to break down the set exercise by
exercise, because if I did there would be no need to
buy it and wouldn't be fair to the producers. I will
however tell you what is on it and what is good and
what isn't and I believe when it's all done you
should have a good idea if this set is for you or
not.
When reviewing this set I took into comparison all
the sets that I have currently seen on the market
and these are those sets or who did them, Steve
Maxwells sets, Scott Sonnen, Team Quest, Martin
Rooney, The whole title Library, Ken Yatsuda, Mike
Mahler, Juan Carlos Santana (bands, swissball,
dumbells) into combat gi and no gi, Jens Pulver I
know I'm forgetting some but that is the gist off
the top of my head.
Now with that out of the way onto the review.
The DVD set comes with two DVDs and one CD-rom. The
two DVDs cover the four phases of working out, each
DVD covers two phases of the workout.
DVD ONE;
The DVD starts with an introduction of the coaches
and explains their philosophy, this is done by SBGi
guys and is presented in an SBG style manner. I like
SBGs methodology and the way they do things in BJJ
and MMA, if you also like that you will feel right
at home with this set. They explain their theory on
how to build up a fighter to work out and reach his
true potential, but it is done in a smart and
systematic manner. The disc moves on to show you how
to use a foam roll to help release the knots you may
not known you have in your muscles. You then move on
to the warm up section that prepares for the
workouts you are about to get started. The first
phase is "balance and stability" you will use swiss
balls, body weight, and dumbells to perform many
different exercises and doing some on one leg since
this is about balance and stability! The exercises
are shown individually with each one showing you
proper form, pace, and common mistakes made in the
exercise. After each exercise is shown isolated they
are then put together into a circuit as one workout.
In this section you are shown three levels of how to
perform these exercises (beginner, intermediate, and
advanced) This happens at all phases of training on
the DVDs.
Phase two moves on to Strength and Compounding this
dvd is a mixture of swissball, bands, bodyweight,
and dumbell exercises. This phase is a mixture of
traditional lifts combined with balance and
stabilization which gives your core a workout along
with the areas targeted. Again like the last phase
this one is first shown with each exercise being
isolated and then combined as one circuit.
DVD Two;
This DVD is the start of Phase 3 Power and
Endurance, this dvd is about combining exercise,
using explosive movements, and building your lactic
acid threshold all while using functional exercises
for out sport. This phase turns it up a notch
compared to the other two phases to prepare you for
the fourth and final phase.
Phase 4 has three circuits on it plus a warmup that
should be performed as a lead in and counted towards
your time in that circuit. These circuits are a
combination of all the phases performed at a high
level making it the final and most difficult phase
to perform.
There is also another section on the DVD which is
bonus material the first is called getting creative
which shows some workouts that can be done using
hills outside, and some flights of stairs. The DVD
ends with Tom Oberhue training outside, if you live
in a major city I would not recommend stopping in
the middle of streets to perform exercises this
could get you killed, but in Oregon it seems to work
great. You get to see Oberhue being an animal in and
outdoor workout which looked taxing to say the least
sprinting up a monster hill and then performing
exercises inbetween his sprints with no rest.
There is also an interview with a Physical Therapist
which I liked and was a nice addition to hear his
thoughts on training and staying injury free in this
sport. A longer self Myofascial release section that
was shorter on the first dvd. There were a couple of
other smaller bonus features.
The CD-rom has over 90 exercises video clips on it,
modules that have some more workouts for you to use
or combine into your workout, printable forms to
print out your workouts on, also a schedule on which
how to train using the dvds.
I have to say I liked this DVD especially for who
this set is targeted for, which is the beginner to
intermediate athlete/coach looking to do more
functional training for combat sports. I like the
fact that this could be done with limited access to
equipment. You aren't going to need treadmills,
versaclimbers, and versapulleys, giant tires and
sledgehammers, sleds, hurdles etc. All you are going
to need is a swissball, some dumbells and bands and
you are pretty much set. What you get in terms of
bang for your buck in terms of band training,
swissball and bodyweight training for combat sports
is great. It would take a couple of sets from other
companies to put together the workouts presented
here and that would be very expensive. I love that
once you get the hang of the exercises that you can
create any workout that you want with the
information provided and then print it up to take
with your anywhere. I love that they take you from
the warm-up, to the workouts, all the way to the
cool down no area is left uncovered. The coaches
stress form and are very diligent in showing the
common mistakes made when performing each exercise.
I asked and was told who this set targeted and I
have to say it did so perfectly, this set isn't just
for the combat athlete either (even though that is
who the target demographic is in this case) it is a
great workout for just about any type of athlete.
The production of the DVDs was top notch, great
audio and video quality and no crappy camera angles
at all. The coaches were all very articulate and
looked veryy comfortable in front of the camera. The
athletes performing the exercises also did a great
job.
Now for my gripes, they aren't big but still I will
say them. When they show each exercise in isolation
they show the proper form and then the mistakes that
are common in performing the exercise. Well, after
they show it they then tell you again in bullet
point afterwards which seemed rather annoying after
awhile but not the end of the world. I didn't like
the add in of the kettlebell exercises, there were
only two but they were said to be also performed
with dumbells. The whole DVD has been using dumbells
and I felt they should have stuck with that and
showed them performed with dumbells, also the snatch
was performed rather poorly compared to many other
sources out there. Other than that I don't have any
real major gripes just a couple of personal
preferences but that would be the case with any
coach.
I will repeat this one last time, this dvd set is
not for the advanced to elite athlete if you fall
into that area you should have your own coach and
already be doing these very things and then some.
This DVD is for the beginner to intermediate combat
athlete, it is perfect for someone looking to change
from a traditional bodybuilders work out to a
functional workout for combat sports. If you fit
that description than this set is made just for you
and you should be picking it up. I was surprised to
see just how good this set is and loved the minimal
amounts of equipment needed. I loved the fact that
this was geared towards the everyday man and not
getting absurd with equipment most people would
never have access to in a million years. I grabbed
my bands hooked them up to a door in my house and
was able to do all the band work no problem that's
how easy this workout can be done yet it is still
challenging especially for the beginner and
intermediate athlete.
I look forward to future sets by this company
because they did a great job their first time out of
the gate.
(added later)
Something I didnt really explain well in my review
was the design modules and components variables that
come with the set which allow you to amp up the
difficutly of the workouts to fit more advanced
athletes.
Sorry I left that part out.
CJ (bjjprim8)
(Posted originally on the Atama BJJ Forum - mma.tv) |